I am curious: yellow dog
After the disgusting FISA vote and the insulting lies Dems spilled to defend the indefensible, Steve Soto will vote for the Yellow Dogs, but that's all: "Then today, I got the face-slap that an Obama administration will not prosecute most Bush Administration officials for their lawbreaking. As a result, he'll only get my vote and nothing more. [...] But life's too short, and I've been disappointed by my party and its leaders many times over the last eight years, and I don't feel like going along anymore. Money is tight but principle is still in abundance with me. The DSCC, DNC, and DCCC don't need me and frankly never have. And truthfully, Obama doesn't either. There's the Beltway, and then there's the rest of us." Me, I will still call my reps from time to time and ask why they voted for indefensible bills and against good ones, but if they tell me lies about how they were protecting me, I will routinely say, "But since everyone already knows that's a lie, what's the real reason?" In fact, I think we should have a postcard campaign in which we write to our reps and say something similar. "Dear _______ ________, When I called your office and asked why you supported the FISA bill, I was told that we need it to protect us and the new version protects our civil liberties. Since everyone knows that this is a lie, please tell me the real reason you supported it." (Copy it to your nearest local and national papers.) They won't answer, but they should be told they're not fooling anyone.
Macro Man presents A modest proposal to re-fill US coffers and get rid of some debt burdens at the same time - beginning with what you might call The Louisiana Unpurchase. Via Mercury Rising, where I also learned that another attempt at persecuting Al Sharpton has again fizzled, and Blackwater has been diversifying.
Since the Bush administration makes a lot of "mistakes" that turn out to be remarkably convenient for them, didn't you wonder how they "accidentally" sent out a private memo to their entire press list? And isn't it odd that the headline of that memo said that the administration's hand-picked Iraqi Leader had endorsed Obama's withdrawal plan - almost as if it were sent out by pro-Obama, anti-occupation activists? It's puzzling... unless you conclude that the GOP is now making moves to change their position for some reason. Swan suggests that their reason might be that they have all come to doubt the wisdom of staying in Iraq, but it occurs to me that there's another: They need to recast it as a debacle that's in the Democrats' hands so they can start screaming at them for not getting out yet on January 21st.
J. Sidney McSame likes to pretend he's been a critic of Bush's Iraq policies, but The Jed Report has the video that suggests otherwise. And here is the evidence that CBS edited McCain's interview with Katie Couric in which he claimed the Anbar Awakening was the result of The Surge, even though it started before the surge - as McCain used to know.
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It is beyond understanding
Why the Dems would support the eroding of our civil rights, which would make it easier for the G0P to retake and/or keep its power? Looks like it's working...McBush now has a real shot at it. Thanks a whole bunch, you DLC morons.
And BTW...this is my morning FRisties.
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By LiberalIconoclastJuly 23, 2008 - 12:48pmTime is coming
that these assholes in congress will have to actually represent the interests of the people who voted for them or face another revolution.
After all, wasn't the original Revolution fired by the issue of taxation without representation?
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By thaelmann37July 23, 2008 - 12:59pmMy 2 cents
I think it all depends on the definition of "egregious." We can go after petty crimes and waste a whole lot of time and money, or focus on big crimes. Just because one blogger doesn't think that torture is considered egregious doesn't mean the Obama administration feels that way. I think this is overreacting to one person's opinion. I don't think it even was the stand of the Obama campaign.
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By MichtouJuly 23, 2008 - 1:38pmI wish I was given the privilege
to decide which laws I can break with a fair degree of certainty that the people responsible for enforcing those laws will decide I will not be held accountable, and I didn't even take an oath to uphold those laws.
In other words, fuck you.
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By alienuslxJuly 23, 2008 - 9:55pmDefending Democrats
I hate playing the role. Lord knows they are deserving of little defense.
But maybe it's at least worth noting that:
in both houses, a majority of the Democratic Party stood opposed.
Sure, it would have been preferable for more, if not all, of them to (and I believe they should have) stand opposed to the bill so as to prevent its passage. But let that be a reminder that the "more" half of "more and better Democrats" only goes so far.
We've worked to help achieve the "more" part... with little results to show for it.
Maybe now it's time to focus on the "better" part of "more and better Democrats".
Better Democrats... even if it means removing some who are part of the "more".
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By SJerseyIndyJuly 23, 2008 - 3:06pmBush, McCain, Petraeus & GOP are confused.
The surge has been a 100 % failure. Patraeus told The Senate during his confirmation hearing, our military could not win in Iraq & only a political solution would be a victory. The purpose of the surge was to bring about stabilization so a political solution could be reached. No political exists, making the surge a complete failure. If the surge worked, why are U S troops still in Iraq & why are there still more U S troops in Iraq now than before the surge ?
The Bush adminstration & McCain are further confused by thinking U S troops should leave based on conditions on the ground & advice from General Patraeus. Iraq is supposedly a free nation, therefore U S troops should leave when told to leave by the government of Iraq.
Bush & McCain blasted Obama for saying he would talk to Iran & their leaders & called Obama foolish for wanting to do so. Bush is now talking with Iran, negotiating & appeasing them. Bush should do a commericial with William Shatner & learn how to negotiate. LMAO !
Bush now uses code words " Time horizon " . It translates... I want a timeline like Obama said I
should have.
Bush at his press conference lied last week & said Iraq invited us there. The press failed to tell Bush, we were not invited & that he ordered the invasion March 2003.
Bush also said at that same press conference that banks were fundamentally sound. If that's the case, why did the gov't bail out Bear Stearns & are about to bail out Fannie Mae & Freddie Mack ?
Can we trust McCain's judgement when he thinks Iraq borders Afghanistan ? Can we trust his experience when he can't tell Sunni from Shiites after visiting Iraq several times more than Obama ? Can we trust McCain when he thinks the surge worked, yet U S troops are still there & he would keep them there to be injured or killed for 100 more years ?
In conclusion, Bush & McCain are insane. Just ask Dr Phil ( Gramm ).
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By Buffy Duped GopJuly 23, 2008 - 3:48pmSorry but,
the surge is working and it'll work in Afghanistan. Later, it'll work in Iran.....
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By moneyosJuly 23, 2008 - 3:56pmThe surge failed
as has been proven, no country in history has ever occupied Afganistan successfully, and scum like you will not have any power to invade Iran. You are a permanent minority.
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By hufflarry2000July 23, 2008 - 3:59pmNo country
has ever put a man on the moon or defeated communism or split an atom. USA, USA, USA!!
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By moneyosJuly 23, 2008 - 7:35pmmoneyros,
But the USA also tried to make the first americans extint with rancid meat, smallpox, and the use of alchol. Please tell me why I should trust the same kind of people that shows that today in the Republican party? (Que the music form jepordy here) and yes I am a native american.
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By rlm_dcbJuly 23, 2008 - 7:57pmI'm a native american too
I was born here.
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By moneyosJuly 23, 2008 - 8:34pmYou are no American
You are a traitor to America and the constitution.
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By hufflarry2000July 23, 2008 - 8:40pmActually,
I'm a traitor to liberalism, communism, socialism and all of your other leftist ideals. All of which are contrary to the constitution.
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By moneyosJuly 23, 2008 - 8:48pmWhere does it say liberalism
is contrary to the constitution? It was liberals who wrote the constitution. You are also a fucking liar, a terrorist and a war criminal.
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By hufflarry2000July 23, 2008 - 8:54pmYou're mistaken
Liberalism today is nothing like it was 220+ years ago. You're a homosexual child molester, inbred compulsive masturbater, necro-beastial cave dweller.
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By moneyosJuly 23, 2008 - 9:01pmI am not mistaken
The liberals of the day wanted independence, the conservatives of the day wanted to stay with England. Child molesting is a Republican thing as has been proven many times.
You just cant get anything right. Lying is a sin, you make the baby Jesus cry.
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By hufflarry2000July 23, 2008 - 9:07pmI stand corrected
Liberals did write the constitution. Conservatives today are trying to conserve the constitution, the way it was written.
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By moneyosJuly 23, 2008 - 9:14pmConservatives, like liberals, are trying
to save the constitution. You Republicans are not conservatives, you are right wing extremists. You are basically fascists. How is spying on Americans, repealing habeas corpus and posse commitatis "conserving" the constitution?
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By hufflarry2000July 23, 2008 - 9:22pmNot so much, really
* The former "conservative" United States AG tried to gut habeas corpus and posse comitatus.
* Cowboy-hat Oathbreaker successfully ramrodded his doublespeak-laden "Improved FISA Act" through the weak-kneed Congress, which shredded the Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Fourteenth Amendments.
* The current "conservative" AG of Alabama is trying to erase the Fifteenth and Nineteenth Amendments for anyone convicted of smoking marijuana.
And those are just the first three examples I came up with, over the space of a minute. Would you like some more? The Google is a wonderful thing.
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By nonexistent manJuly 24, 2008 - 1:31amYou are a shining example
Of how Conservatives have destroyed the educational system.
You know nothing. You just keep spouting the same lies over and over.
Before you embarrass yourself again. Pick up a history book, read it and try to learn something. Try to get a grip on reality and get away from Limbaughland where everything is Orwellian and backwards.
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By rafitch71July 24, 2008 - 10:09amYou are WRONG, Rockstar Breath!
If Huff were all those things, he'd be a REPUBLICAN like yourself.
Now go do what you do best, Tommycarl...jerking off to "High School Musical."
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By LiberalIconoclastJuly 23, 2008 - 9:07pmCommunism
was invented in the 1840's.
It cannot be unconstitutional, any more than Scientology can be unconstitutional.
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By alienuslxJuly 23, 2008 - 10:02pmLeftist ideals, all of which work
until idiot conservatives, like you, get their stupid little meat hooks into them.
How's deregulation working for you, and Enron, and the housing industry and the banking industry, etc...?
Conservative Economic Plan
It's Corporate Welfare. If it helps corporations, you love it. If it helps the people that corporations steal from, you hate it. It doesn't work. It never has. It never will. And you want to keep doing it. That's about as un-American, and inhuman, as you can get. Leftist ideals are the only thing that keep this country safe from you.
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By rafitch71July 24, 2008 - 10:02ammoneyros,
Yes you may have been born here, but you are not a native. Because us REAL natives share everything on the rez., but I bet you would not get the concept of belonging to something bigger then yourself. Now with that said a TRUE native would before he or she would take meat for his or herself they would make sure that the widows and ophans would have something to eat, but I think this sounds better.
"Once the men hunted and gathered, while the women tended to the fires and cooked. The medicine man was free, and almost everyone was having sex every night. The children was raised to resepect their elders, and when it came to wars it was not to kill but a high stakes of tag. IT TAKES A WHITE MAN TO SCREW THIS SYSTEM UP!!!"
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By rlm_dcbJuly 24, 2008 - 1:11amI agree with most of what you say, rlm_dcb.
But it sounds like you are describing the nations of the plains. In the East, when the Iroquois, Creek, or Cherokee went to war, they made total war. They would kill or take captive every man, woman, or child they could find in an enemy village, the theory being any one of the enemy could become or produce a warrior.
Even on the plains shooting an enemy was much more common then counting coup on him.
Just respectfully disagreeing with you on that one point.
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By thaelmann37July 24, 2008 - 9:52amYou're an idiot American, there's a difference
To be a Native American you need a little more history in the area then just a couple hundred years.
What a moron.
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By rafitch71July 24, 2008 - 9:52amLiberals put a man on the moon
conservatives were against it. Communist Russia launched the first sattelite and communism still exists in Vietnam, Cuba and China.
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By hufflarry2000July 23, 2008 - 7:59pmlarry you
Forgot to also tell him that we trade with Vietnam and China.
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By rlm_dcbJuly 23, 2008 - 8:02pmI see...
You're a communist, aren't you? The USA is not a communist country. If this is the type of government you are looking for, then maybe you should move to Vietnam or Cuba or China....
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By moneyosJuly 23, 2008 - 8:38pmSocialism and Communism are not the same thing
You're right. The USA is not a Communist country.
Right now, the USA is a Fascist country. Maybe you should move to Sudan.
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By rafitch71July 24, 2008 - 9:45amI liked what Hartmann said about American style socialism.
" The gains are privatized and the losses socialized."
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By thaelmann37July 24, 2008 - 9:55amBy the way,
Kennedy was a conservative.
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By moneyosJuly 23, 2008 - 8:39pmKennedy was a liberal you moron.
One of the most liberal presidents we ever had. It is very unamerican to lie about America's history. But being the traitor you are, you dont care.
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By hufflarry2000July 23, 2008 - 8:56pmLets see
He was an advocate for tax cuts and pro-capitalism. These are conservative ideals. Commie.
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By moneyosJuly 23, 2008 - 9:18pmKennedy raised taxes on the rich
but cut them on the poor and middle class. Kennedy started some of the biggest social programs ever. Liberals are pro capitalist. It is you right wingers who are pro socialist. You want to privatize profits, but as soon as your unregulated capitalism goes bad and you lose money, you want the govt and tax payers to bail you out. This is happening now. Republicans always prove how unregulated capitalism does not work and how well socialism does work.
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By hufflarry2000July 23, 2008 - 9:27pmGive it up, dickhead
Dragging out the old communist fear? You little bitches really are desperate, aren't you?
Face it, Sissy Boy. Your masters are DONE.
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By LiberalIconoclastJuly 23, 2008 - 9:36pm"No country" did any of those things,
so your assertion is correct.
What was the point of the exclamation at the end?
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By alienuslxJuly 23, 2008 - 9:59pmFluffy
Who ever tried to conquer Afghanistan? Look at the place. Who would want it?
In fact three wars were fought between the English (actually Indian soldiers led by English officers) and the Afghans. The English won the second war and extracted a humiliating peace on Afghanistan.
In fact the Afghan resistance came to the United States in the early eighties and BEGGED for help against the Soviets. The US Congress (including Democrats who were the majority in the House) allowed appropriation of Stinger missiles for the Afghan resistance which allowed them to shoot down Soviet helicopters which were massacreing them.
Look at the terrain in Afghanistan. It is barren, rugged mountains. The fights between previous invaders such as the English and the Afghans were equal because each side was limited to the ground. The Soviets helicopters could cruise over everything and see the slightest movement and swoop down on the Afghans.
Fluffy, it is a simple fact that the Soviets would have won in Afghanistan if the US had not helped.
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By richaduJuly 24, 2008 - 2:00amIt is not a simple fact
because it never happened.
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By hufflarry2000July 24, 2008 - 8:26amBy moneyos July 23, 2008 - 3:56pm
ScrollTheTroll....
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By SJerseyIndyJuly 23, 2008 - 4:00pmIm sure Hitler thought the same thing in 1942.
" Ach, wit mein new panzer divisions Russland will soon be kaput."
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By thaelmann37July 23, 2008 - 4:00pmSo then, Tommy...
Does this mean you're going to ENLIST AND FIGHT in Iran?
http://www.goarmy.com
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http://www.1800goguard.com
http://www.marines.com
Didn't think so. Yellow little republican bitch boy.
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By LiberalIconoclastJuly 23, 2008 - 6:28pmYes,
I'm joining the army.
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By moneyosJuly 23, 2008 - 8:32pmBullshit
Contard...The Other White Meat™. Tastes like Chicken Because It's Made From Chicken®.
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By LiberalIconoclastJuly 23, 2008 - 8:41pmHe'd better hurry, then
...considering the g0p only has 180 more days in any kind of power. After that we get to see what happens when we give PEACE a chance.
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By nonexistent manJuly 23, 2008 - 6:36pmMass. woman kills self before home foreclosure
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By f u bush2July 24, 2008 - 1:43amMortgages CEO death ruled suicide
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By f u bush2July 24, 2008 - 1:46amThere's the Beltway, and then there's the rest of us."
Now how many times has Rush Limbaugh said that?
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By richaduJuly 24, 2008 - 1:43am